In Quiet Desperation: Understanding The Challenge Of Same-gender Attraction

In Quiet Desperation: Understanding The Challenge Of Same-gender Attraction

Fred Matis Marilyn Matis Ty Mansfield / Jan 25, 2020

In Quiet Desperation Understanding The Challenge Of Same gender Attraction Most likely someone you know is living a life of quiet desperation struggling with feelings of same gender attraction In an effort to help Latter day Saints understand and reach out to those who suf

  • Title: In Quiet Desperation: Understanding The Challenge Of Same-gender Attraction
  • Author: Fred Matis Marilyn Matis Ty Mansfield
  • ISBN: 9781590383315
  • Page: 338
  • Format: Paperback
  • Most likely, someone you know is living a life of quiet desperation, struggling with feelings of same gender attraction In an effort to help Latter day Saints understand and reach out to those who suffer from this difficulty Fred and Marilyn Matis discuss how they ve dealt with the knowledge of their son Stuart s challenge with same gender attraction, and how parents andMost likely, someone you know is living a life of quiet desperation, struggling with feelings of same gender attraction In an effort to help Latter day Saints understand and reach out to those who suffer from this difficulty Fred and Marilyn Matis discuss how they ve dealt with the knowledge of their son Stuart s challenge with same gender attraction, and how parents and others can reach out with love In addition, Ty Mansfield discusses his own challenge and how he continues to go forward with faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ The Lord promised that he will change our hearts, but he didn t say when, writes Mansfield He never promised it would happen in mortality He only said it would happen.

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    1. I've been reading Ty Mansfield's book, "In Quiet Desperation," and I have to say I'm quite impressed. So much of what is written about homosexuality is so politically-motivated that I have a hard time finding an unbiased treatment of the subject. On the one hand you have those who argue that having certain tendencies or inclinations automatically justifies giving expression to those feelings through behaviors. On the other hand you have those who argue that God would never be so cruel as to give [...]


    2. Incredible insight into the lives and hearts of faithful members of the church who struggle with the challenge of same-gender attraction. The authors are my friends, and the kindest of people you would ever know. Fred & Marilyn's son Stuart committed suicide after an intense personal struggle to try to overcome his attractions and remain faithful to what he believed in his heart to be true. As I read, I listed the things I admired about Stuart, and realized when I had nearly a page full, tha [...]



    3. I read this book when I found out someone close to me was a lesbian. I wanted to understand her better and love her without judging her. This book is a favorite book on the atonement. It's content applies to everyone, not just those who struggle with same-gender attraction. We all have trials and struggles in this life and this book teaches incredible principles to help us get through them using the atonement of our Savior. When I suggested to others they should read this book for understanding, [...]


    4. I am really tired of all the gay right crap! Yet I can't stop thinking and talking about it. I have heard a variety of reasons why people are "gay." I have never really been comfortable with any of them. I found all the reasons to sound a little pathetic, to be honest. I am very much a heterosexual and personally could not possibly understand how anyone could be otherwise. I picked up this book to gain further understanding about people who are attracted to the same sex. This book definitely ser [...]


    5. This is one of my favorite books on the atonement. It's content applies to everyone, not just those who struggle with same-gender attraction. We all have trials and struggles in this life and this book teaches incredible principles to help us get through them using the atonement of our Savior.


    6. My gay friend came and visited me a couple weeks ago from out of state. I met him at BYU, wrote to him on his mission, did a roadtrip to see the Nauvoo temple open house with him, and had him at my temple wedding. I love him. He was finishing up his graduate degree at BYU when he decided he couldn't do it anymore and came out. He seems pretty happy now, and he is excited about his new boyfriend. So I picked up this book after his visit, wanting to find some new books on the topic. I've read a co [...]


    7. The issue of homosexuality in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is growing in openness. Unfortunately, some leaders of the Church and especially some LDS authors simply are not educated enough to address the real issue. This book is like a gay sensitivity seminar, and if anything, is encouraging homosexuality. Our feelings can change every day, it all depends on what we decide to give into or dwell on. This book pretends to be about unconditional love, but what it's really about is [...]


    8. I really wanted to like this book—but unless one is a fervent Latter Day Saint, one will likely find somewhat tiresome Ty's frequent deferences to the established authority of the Mormon Scriptures and church presidents and leaders. This book is largely an apologetic addressed to other Mormons, both those who may be 'struggling' with same-sex attraction and those who may be judgmental towards those in the Church who are struggling. Due to the primacy of his faith, Ty's own felt needs must be s [...]


    9. This is an awesome, awesome, awesome book for understanding same-gender attraction with an LDS perspective.The first half of the book is written by a husband and wife whose son struggled with same-gender attraction. He killed himself because he could not reconcile his attraction with the plan of salvation. His parents offer a wonderful insight on how members of the Church can support those who struggle with this trial.The second half of the book is written by an LDS man who struggles with same g [...]


    10. This is an amazing book. I highly recommend it. The first section is so heart-wrenching, but the last section is just beautiful doctrine. Very uplifting


    11. I almost feel guilty giving this book two stars, but I have to.First of all, I was impressed with the way Fred and Marilyn Matis wrote their story. It was honest and thoughtful, and as far as I could tell, they had a really great relationship with their son Stuart and did all that they could to accept him and show him love. I do not doubt that they try to help others in a truly kind and beneficial way -- all the while trying to maintain a respect and appreciation for the gospel. I understand why [...]


    12. This book was very enlightening especially in the context of the LDS church. There is a lot of stigma and misunderstanding around same-gender attraction in the church and this book answers a lot of those questions as well as giving sound spiritual guidance to those who experience same-gender attraction. A great read for anyone seeking understanding and a way to help and support loved ones dealing with this.


    13. This is in the beginning of the book. I try to remember it when I am going through hard things."There was a group of women in a Bible study on the book of Malachi. As they were studying chapter three, they came across verse three which says: "He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver." (Malachi 3:3) This verse puzzled the women and they wondered what this statement meant about the character and nature of God.One of the women offered to find out about the process of refining silver and get [...]


    14. First of all, it gets a little repetitive at the end, but I defy you to not be emotionally distraught right along with the Matis's as they poignantly describe their relationship with their son, and the terrible awakening they experience as they see their son's road, and join him on it.The second 2/3's of the book are written by Ty Mansfield, now a therapist in Texas. He is heartfelt, and brutally honest about his road in life, and I think it is a wonderful perspective for someone who has found a [...]


    15. First of all, I do not experience the challenge of same-gender attraction. But I do have several friends who have had to deal with this problem. My best friend growing up eventually "came out" after 21 years of life.I also know the co-author, Ty Mansfield. He was my EFY counselor back in 2001. I also met with him briefly on my mission in Washington State. He is a very good person. This book gave me a greater understanding of the inner battle my friends have waged.Anybody from the LDS church shou [...]


    16. I'm just trying to get my mind and heart in a better place on this topic. It totally befuddles me. I finally finished the book and it was full of doctrine sweet and pure. Perhaps a little too much of it? He could have made his point in half the space. But it was all good stuff. He never tries to justify homosexuals getting into a relationship, in fact just the opposite. He gives every reason out there for staying chaste, even if it means a life of being single and celibate. The author is very br [...]


    17. One of the most amazing books I've read. I know one of the authors and so am slightly biased- but I would recommend this book to ANYONE and EVERYone.It is such an incredible description of the issues faced by those with same gender attraction. I feel like often time people stereotype and generalize homosexuality without completely understanding it. The book is written by Ty (a man who has same gender attraction) and the mother and father of a man who committed suicide due to the challenges he fa [...]


    18. I saw this book in the Deseret Book cataloge. One of the authors, Ty Mansfield, just married a friend from our ward last year. Their reception was interesting. Randy knew one of the guests from his freshman ward who has chosen to live the "alternative" lifestyle. I have such respect for Ty after reading this book. His commitment to his faith, to Christ, and to his covenants permiates the book, but he also is clear about the struggle to stay faithful. This is a must read for anyone who wants to g [...]


    19. So Deep.It was incredibly touching and profound to me to look at the infinite number and range of trials each of us goes thru in life and reinforced how amazing our Father in Heaven and Christ are in that they look at us not as how we deal with those trials but are our cheering squad/leaders/friends who love us thru them regardless. This book definitely helped me to realize I am too quick to judge and want to stop doing it in order to progress to be just a little bit more like my Savior!!! Super [...]


    20. I think everyone should read this book! Really! I think it deals with a very important topic (homosexuality) that's getting more addressed within the church, but that still causes great pain and distress for many members who struggle with this. This is definitely eye-opening, and will allow you to have more compassion and understanding. It's written by parents of a son who was gay and mormon and committed suicide, as well as a gay member who has chosen to stay active in the church.


    21. This is a powerful book for anyone who is interested in the question of homosexuality in a religious context. I like to think I have an open mind about same-gender attraction, specifically in the context of religion, but I still learned a lot about the author's struggle accepting himself and his situation and the innate human struggle within the bigger picture of existence. I recommend you read this, especially if you have a negative or confused perspective of people who are gay.


    22. I think this book offer great insight into the issue of same-sex attraction and the Atonement- especially the second half by Ty Mansfield. I'm so thankful that a close friend asked me to read this as it not only helped me develop a greater love, appreciation and understanding for him, but also deepened my own personal understanding of the Atonement in my life. I have recommended this book to individuals and families both personally and professionally.


    23. An interesting perspective about same-gender attraction and the Church. Sadly, it only illustrates how being "different" is not a desired trait within the hetero-normative culture of the Church. Some, probably many, will find this depressing while others will see hope and faith in Christ. If for no other reason, the book will allow one to enter into the lives of gay Mormons and the strange doctrine and dogma that is modern Mormonism.


    24. Great book, very emotional. My heart aches for anyone going through what stewart was going though. It did help me understand a little bit better, and that is a good thing. We as church members and christians need to try and gain more understanding and knowledge about things that we sometimes find uncomfortable. We too then can become more compasionate with all of our brothers and sisters here.


    25. I knew the subject of this bookStuart Matis grew up in my ward, and I gave him piano lessons when he was young. He felt compelled to take his life, regardless of anything anyone could say or do. Sad to be at that point.The second half is more uplifting and is good advice to anyone facing any kind of challenge


    26. this book reinforces the gift of the atonement for anyone. if we have a struggle with thoughts and temptation with anything, be it same gender attraction, drugs, pornography, etc as long as we have faith in christ and don't act upon those temptations, we will make eternal progression.


    27. This book was so insightful for me. It wasn't just limited to expanding my understanding of same-gender attraction (particularly within the LDS Church) but was helpful for me to gain a better understanding of the Atonement and it's application for various challenges that we face.


    28. I don't usually like people who aren't general authorities putting forth their ideas as doctrine in books, but this one was excellently researched and compassionately thought through on a sensitive subject; one I think we need to be more aware. I loved the insights.


    29. SUCH a phenomenal book. 100% worth your time. I think all people need to read this book, and in particular all members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It brings light to such a misunderstood subject.


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